Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Nick Legras's avatar

I am a person with a relatively high IQ (a paltry upper 120-low 130) and a rap sheet of mental health problems, including ADHD.

There is a stubborn narrative out there that smart people suffer for their braininess, but a cursory Google shows that IQ is positively correlated with almost any positive psychological trait you could imagine.

**However**. It is worth noting that there is a subgroup of high-IQ people for whom IQ is correlated *inversely* with general well-being. This paper finds that they fit into a cognitive profile of high(er) verbal iq and low(er) processing speed. High correlation with ASD.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.02.21265802v1.full.pdf

I suspect many troubled ex-gifted kids fall into this “biotype.”

There are some other papers that have similar findings, if you dig for them.

I had my IQ professionally tested once, and found that my verbal IQ was 145 and my processing speed was only in the 90’s (in one subsection there, I actually scored in the 30th percentile.)

Expand full comment
Tar Miriel's avatar

I was not a gifted child but I was a child with a diagnosis of “High Functioning Autism”. My husband is a former gifted kid. He not only has better social skills than I do, but his social skills are one of his greatest strengths. Also, when I was a kid I gravitated toward adults and preferred speaking with (or at…) them. Nothing to do with my peers not being smart enough for me. This is actually not abnormal with Autistic kids.

Somehow as an adult what passes for my social circle is predominantly made up of former gifted kids, and the ones who flounder are floundering due to OCD or ADHD or Bipolar Disorder. It there’s friction around their intellect it’s only if their favorite topic of conversation is how much smarter they are than everyone else. Or if they act like being intelligent means they only have to read about a topic casually and they’ll know more about it than someone of average intellect who has more extensive experience.

(This is my long-winded way of agreeing that Georgios’s Asperger’s was probably more to blame for his social difficulties than his IQ. I mean. It’s a disorder defined by deficits in social skills so saying this feels like stating the obvious…)

Expand full comment
4 more comments...

No posts