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Ryan Lloyd's avatar

On II.1, would it be fair to say that the ‘if’ in your final paragraph is doing a lot of heavy lifting?

On II.2, the simple fix seems to be to refine the descriptors used to label the data, rather than to insist that data relating to transwomen be labelled as ‘male’.

On II.3, the suggestion appears to be that transgender identities do not arise out of a sense of personal necessity or intuition, but are assumed as a convenient premise, and that the validity of a given identity—and the extent to which its premise will be indulged—will vary according to how contextually sympathetic the identity’s dynamics appear to be. This seems to rest on a self-serving assumption and to provide only a messy and unstable set of principles against which to understand transgender identities.

Also on II.3, Lawford-Smith’s argument seems circular and confused. It reads to me as ‘transwomen cannot be women because they cannot understand what it feels like to be a woman, because they’re not women’. The argument also seems to characterise gender identity as simultaneously being fixed into mutually unknowable binary categories while also being something fluid that can be mutually knowable in the right cultural context. Again the principles being set out strike me as messy and unstable.

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Amos Wollen's avatar

What do you make of the Bogardus argument that preferred pronouns function as a shibboleth, such that if you’re broadly gender critical, you should refuse to use them for the same reason Christians should refuse to desecrate icons?

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